Chemtrail Flu: Have You Got It Yet?

January 13, 2013

You¹re sick. Your nose is stuffy. Your body aches, You¹re sweaty, coughing, sneezing and you don¹t have enough energy to get out of bed.
It¹s not the flu. It¹s a conspiracy, according to Dr. Len Horowitz. His opinion is not based on conspiracy theory but on conspiracy fact.
Over the past 10 years, Horowitz has become America¹s most controversial medical authority. A university-trained medical researcher, Horowitz, 48, charges that elements of the United States government are conspiring with major pharmaceutical companies to make large segments of the population sick.
The mainstream media is reporting that hospital emergency rooms are jammed with patients suffering from a bizarre upper respiratory infection that doesn¹t quite seem like a virus. They are reporting that it¹s a ³mystery² flu and that the flu vaccines are ineffective against it.
³That¹s all hogwash, bogus nonsense², says Dr. Leonard Horowitz. ³The fact of the matter is, we have seen this type of an epidemic since the end of 1998 and the beginning of 1999. People have been hacking and coughing with this bizarre illness that does not seem to follow any logical viral or bacterial onset and transition period.
If it was a really bacterial or a viral infection, it would have caused a fever but it didn¹t. It lasts for weeks, if not months. Sinus congestion, sinus drainage, cough, fatigue, general malaise. People have been feeling ³off².
The Armed Forces Research Institute of Pathology has registered a patent for the pathogenic micoplasma that is causing the epidemic. You can see the patent report in the book, Healing Codes for the Biblical Apocalypse.
Micoplasma is not really a fungus, it¹s not really a bacteria, it¹s not really a virus. It has no cell wall. It goes deep into the cell nuclei thereby making it very difficult to mount an immune response against it. It¹s a man-made biological weapon.The patent report explains how it causes chronic upper respiratory infections that are virtually identical to what¹s going on right now.²
CHEMTRAILS DESTROY YOUR IMMUNE FUNCTION
³I believe the chemtrails are responsible for a chemical intoxication of the public, which would then cause a general immune suppression, low grade to high grade, depending on exposure. The immune dysfunction allows people to become susceptible to opportunistic infections, such as this micoplasma and other opportunistic infections², says Dr. Horowitz.
³I first began to investigate chemtrails when some were sprayed over my home in Northern Idaho. I took pictures of them, and then contacted the Environmental Protection Agency of the state who were clueless and referred me to the Air Force. They got me in touch with Centers for Disease Control Toxicology, and after about a week I received a letter from one of their chief toxicologists saying, indeed there was some amount of ethylene dibromide in the jet fuel.

Ethylene dibromide is a known human chemical carcinogen that was removed from unleaded gasoline because of its cancer-causing effects. Now suddenly it has appeared in the jet fuel that high-altitude military aircraft are emitting!²
Ethylene dibromide is coming out of the jet fuels that is causing immune suppression and weakening people¹s immune system. Then you¹ve got a micoplasma microbe or a fungus that causes an upper respiratory illness. Suddenly you develop a secondary bacterial infection. Now you get hit with ANTIBIOTICS, and the antibiotics cause your body chemistry to go acidic, so now you get rashes and other things, your liver gets full of toxins and comes out through your skin in rashes and they get hyperallergenic reactions associated with the other chemicals. I¹ve got colleagues in the Bahamas, Bermuda, Toronto, British Columbia all reporting the same bizarre seeding of the atmosphere. What is going on is just despicable.
All of a sudden now you¹ve got human beings completely out of balance and infected by two, three or four microbial co-factors as well as intoxicated by a variety of different chemicalsŠ and you¹ve got somebody who¹s going to be chronically ill.
THE BLACK BUDGET
³The Frank Church Congressional Hearings of 1975 exposed the Central Intelligence Agency biological weapons contracting firms ­ Litton Bionetics and the Army Corp of Engineers who were developing and utilizing various biological weapons on populations. And this is all done under black operations, covert operations, where they get funding and congressional people are never informed really where this money is going. It¹s the black budget², says Horowitz.
³And in the contemporary warfare arena, where experts in biological chemical warfare convene and discuss the ways that are ideal to conduct warfare today, to really take an enemy out, you don¹t want to kill the people. You want to produce people who are chronically ill and become dependant on the state and totally sap the resources of the country. And then you can move in with your military-medical-industrial complex and your international medical-pharmaceutical cartel. Then you sell these defeated countries all of the pharmaceuticals and chemicals that they need to maintain any semblance of healthy function.
They¹re completely depleted. They can¹t put together a military. You create a dependence and thereby you weaken the population, and weakened populations are easy to control. So you¹ve got population control, and you make vast fortunes doing it, versus just blowing up a nuclear weapon and devastating the infrastructure that you own. You and your colleagues own that infrastructure. You want to get rid of the people. You don¹t want to get rid of infrastructure²
WHO¹S RESPONSIBLE?
³What I¹m relating to you now is not speculation. If you were to read the top experts analysis of military warfare, including The Report From Iron Mountain ­ the Rockefeller family is one of the major players in this conspiracy. They are one of the major players in world genocide, world population reduction. That¹s no mystery anymore
When you examine who owns the chemtrail fuel, who are the fuel company directors, suddenly you enter into the realm of the Rockefeller family and the royal families ­ Standard Oil and British Petroleum. And what are their other agendas? Suddenly now you see their documents, showing that they have funded, historically, eugenics, racial hygiene, genocide, depopulation, family planning, maternal and child health ­ where they make and deliver vaccines, and contaminated blood supplies. These are the banksters, the same people who run the blood banking as well as the money banking industries², says Dr. Horowitz.
³I reference a great book by Dr. John Coleman, who worked as a British Secret Service agent at the highest levels. And he articulated very clearly who was running those companies. It all goes back, ultimately, to the highest level of the royal family. The Bush family, Rothschild family, the Rockefeller money, and the entire Rockefeller establishment is based on Rothschild money and royal families.

If you can¹t explain it rationally or any other way, I think you¹ve got to begin to consider conspiracy theories and eliminate the negative label that you¹ve placed on conspiracy theories which have been demonized along with wholistic medicine.²
AMERICA¹S FOURTH REICH
The ruling crime families are making vast fortunes off of humanity¹s suffering. The Rockefellers monopolized American medicine in the 1920s. They, along with I.G. Farben, Germany¹s leading industrial organization, held the monopoly on the world¹s chemical and pharmaceutical industries.
The Rockefellers and I.G. Farben worked together before World War II and during World War II. For all practical purposes, the Rockefellers and I.G. Farben were the Third Reich.
Who else is involved? The Merck Pharmaceutical Company. Their president, George W. Merck, was America¹s biological weapons industry director during World War II. He was personally appointed by President Roosevelt and Secretary of War Stimson.
The Nazis planned for the New World Order. They even had a term for it ­ ³neue Ordnung,² which means New Order, New World Order. This today, this New World Order, is the rise of the Fourth Reich. This is precisely what they envisioned and then carried out on a global scale. The goal of the Fourth Reich is population control and genocide.
99.99 percent of Masons have no clue what they¹re really up to at the highest levels. they give you increased knowledge at every higher degree of Freemasonry. When you get beyond the 33rd degree, you get the highest indoctrination into what¹s called the Ancient Arcana, the ancient sacred knowledge described in the book Healing Codes of the Biblical Apocalypse. That¹s where the devil-doers who are running this planet are nesting.
How does a person become that high in the Masonic organization? Through bloodlines. You¹ve got to be major royalty, major royalty, ideally a descendent or you¹ve got to be somebody who is very close to the royalty, the major bloodlines.
WHO ARE THEY TARGETING?
Who are they targeting for genocide? If there¹s an attempt underway to reduce the population of the planet, why isn¹t it happening?
³Look at countries like those in Africa, Third World nations that have been heavily targeted with HIV/AIDS. And consider that 73 percent of HIV/AIDS patients in America today are Black or Hispanic. Statistically, 55 percent of gay men in America are already dead. Are you seeing depopulation specifically targeting minority groups now? Of course. It¹s happening right now.
They don¹t want to totally eliminate populations completely, just certain populations. And isn¹t it, from their perspective, wonderful? They¹ve got a covert depopulation agenda that nobody¹s picked up on yet. It¹s ideally what they want to produce.
It¹s not just about the money. I think there¹s a Satanic or evil ideology, because Nixon himself said, referring to the Rockefellers, ­ it¹s not about money for these people, it¹s about power.
THE MONOPOLY GAME
At the end of the Monopoly game, what do you do? One person wins, they own all of the real estate, they own all of the assets, they¹ve wiped all the other players out and the game is over. You can out the game away in your closet. But you don¹t do that on planet earth.
The person who wins at the end of this World Monopoly Game gets to rearrange the board. And that¹s precisely what we¹ve seen in the last year. You¹ve seen not the biggest fish eating the biggest fish in international commerce, you have seen the mega-whales eating the mega-whales in these mega-mergers. All these little companies that are producing your vitamins are a subsidiary of a major conglomerate. Today a Warner Lambert or Glaxo Wellcom, all of these huge, huge corporations own all the little fish. They buy them out. So, again, now the game board gets to be changed if they desire, and apparently that¹s what they desire. That¹s their agenda, you can see it.
At the Denver Airport, there¹s a capstone, in the main terminal building dedicated to the New World Airport Commission by the Freemasons. And there¹s a big colorful mural ­ that is dedicated to the extinct human species. And in the foreground, against the horrific backdrop of flames and destruction, there are three open coffins

BUILD YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM
STEP ONE: Detoxification.
Because we¹ve all been fed Babylon¹s harvest and eaten the toxic garbage that comes from Monsanto, Dow Chemical and Archer Daniel and all their genetically engineered foods and the chemicals and the fluorides and the chlorines, we need to detox. An easy detoxification program using fresh squeezed lemonade that you make with maple syrup and fresh squeezed lemons and cayenne pepper
STEP TWO: Deacidification
To change your body¹s chemistry, make it more alkaline. It¹s only in the acid state that the growth of bacteria, viruses, fungus, molds, and cancer, cancer cells thrive. They cannot grow in an alkaline environment. What causes your body chemistry to go acidic and become a breeding ground for the bacterial and infectious agents? Caffeine, nicotine, sugar, refined carbohydrates, alcohol, pharmaceuticals including antibiotics, red meats, stress ­ are the main causes. Eliminate or reduce them as much as possible.
Squeeze lemon juice into water. Lemon has a lot of calcium in it and it turns to calcium hydroxide in drinking water. That¹s alkalising. It raises the PH of that water from about 7 to about 8. Hot cayenne pepper is one of the most alkalising agents you can put in your body. It detoxifies and deacidifies all in one step.
STEP THREE: Spiritual
Meditate. There¹s mental, emotion, social, environmental and, above all, spiritual changes that people need to make to really prepare to withstand the plagues.
STEP FOUR: Oxygenation
The Rockefeller-directed international banksters, blood banksters and medical monopolists have been busy suppressing your immune system. You want to raise your blood oxygen levels

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Haiti Being forced to accept Toxic GMO Seeds from MONSANTO

Monsanto is a POP-CON agent.

Monsanto needs to be dissolved immediately.

Haiti must refuse these seeds, and those who are funding Her reconstruction must refuse to accept the $4million dollar ‘Smallpox laced Blankets’ in the form of ‘HYBRID’ (what a lie) seeds from this dastardly and ANTI-LIFE company called MONSANTO.

NYC SCHOOL PANEL MAY APPROVE POP TARTS, BANS BROWNIES AND ZUCCHINI BREAD

NY TIMES – Nine months after effectively banning most fund-raising food sales in city schools, a city panel will vote Wednesday on an amended regulation that will allow student groups to sell items like Pop-Tarts and Doritos during the school day, but not brownies, zucchini bread or anything else homemade.

The new regulation is meant as a compromise between the city’s concerns about childhood obesity – which they cite as the reason for the restrictions – and the fund-raising needs of student and parent groups, some of which are struggling amid difficult economic times, especially after losing one of their most lucrative sources of revenue.

Under the new rules, students may sell fresh fruits and vegetables, or one of 27 specific packaged items that have been approved for sales in city vending machines, between the start of school and 6 p.m. on weekdays. The same goes for parent groups, except for an exception carved out for one no-brownies-barred Parent Teacher Association bake sale during the school day per month.

No homemade or unpackaged items are on the list of “approved” foods because “it’s impossible to know what the content is, or what the portion size is,” said Kathleen Grimm, the deputy chancellor for infrastructure and portfolio planning, who oversees the regulation.

Students opposed to the restrictions, however, said they didn’t see how the new rules were much better.

“It’s unrealistic to say a young adult can’t make a decision about whether they can eat something,” said David Greenblatt, 18, a senior at the High School of American Studies at Lehman College. “Soon I’ll be in college, and I won’t have Mommy or Daddy or Chancellor Klein sitting right next to me saying, ‘Hey David, don’t eat that, its too high in calories.'”

To qualify as an approved item, a snack must meet 11 criteria developed by the city. For example, all products must be in marked, single-serving packages with a maximum calorie count of 200. Artificial sweeteners, like Splenda, are banned. Less than 35 percent of the item’s total calories may come from either total sugars or fat. Grain-based products must contain at least 2 grams of fiber.

The criteria led some foods not normally thought of as healthy to make the list. For example, approved items include two of the 21 varieties of Frito-Lay Doritos: Cool Ranch Reduced Fat, and Spicy Sweet Chili (1 ounce packages). The Cool Ranch variety contains three food colorings – Red 4D, Blue 1 and Yellow 5 – and two laboratory-produced flavor enhancers – disodium inosinate and disodium guanylate. The criteria don’t ban these additives.

In addition, the Spicy Sweet Chili Doritos appear to have only half as much as the required amount of fiber, according to the manufacturer’s Web site.

The city has also green-lighted one of 29 types of Kellogg’s Pop-Tarts, the Frosted Brown Sugar Cinnamon (1.76 ounces), although the manufacturer’s Web site said the item has 210 calories. When asked about this discrepancy, the city sent over a copy of the nutritional facts for a different kind of Pop-Tart, Whole Grain Brown Sugar Cinnamon, which has 200 calories.

Other highlights from the list: Nutri-Grain Cereal Bars (blackberry only); Linden’s Cookies (butter crunch, chocolate chip or fudge chip cookies in two cookie packs); and Nature Valley Crunchy Granola Bars (just the Peanut Butter and Oats ‘N’ Honey varieties). Students and manufacturers can add additional items to the list by submitting their printed nutritional information to the Department of Education for approval.

To purchase food for approved sales, students may go to Costco or other stores to buy items for resale, said Eric Goldstein, the schools’ chief executive for food and busing.

I almost got into a debate with an Immunology Academic Type, but he wouldn’t go there…

CHECK THIS HILARIOUS THREAD OUT, IT COMES FROM FACEBOOK.

Source: www.federaljack.com
(FOXNEWS) President Obama’s school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.

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Daniel James

Daniel James

People need to stop getting vaccinated for every silly little thing it is only making the human immune system weaker in long run
Wed at 23:30
Paul Suliin

Paul Suliin

The vaccine is currently scarce and is being rationed. Obama’s kids weren’t vaccinated because their risk group isn’t high enough to warrant it, NOT because it’s in any way dangerous.

Vaccination against H1N1 is more a public health matter than a personal health matter. The chance of any given person who catches H1N1 developing a serious condition is quite small – less than 1%. However the virus is extremely contagious, due to a low “herd immunity” against this particular strain.

That means that without widespread vaccination, a very large number of people will come down with it – CDC estimates as many as 1/3 of all Americans could end up catching this disease. That’s 100 million people. Even with a mortality rate of about 0.7%, that’s 700,000 dead – 20 times the number of deaths from a normal seasonal flu. H1N1 could easily kill more people in the next 12 months than tobacco will.Read more

This can be prevented only by boosting the resistance of the entire population. The only way to do that is to get vaccinated.

Yesterday at 00:11
Jason Correia

Jason Correia

Personally I’ve gotten almost every vaccine available. Chicken pox, Hep A & B are experiences I will never wonder what I’d be missing. I plan to take the H1N1 vaccine when its more available. So I’ll be a guinea pig by taking a small risk rather than be sick with a nasty flu.
Yesterday at 00:33
Steven Honeycombe

Steven Honeycombe

Im pretty sure Ive had The Bug already, myself and a few people I know. I was real sick, Ive never been that sick before and my friends say the same. Youll need the injection for the young and elderly for sure. Only a handful of people I know got it, all around my age. I was the only one infected in my house hold – go figure
Yesterday at 00:48
Paul Suliin

Paul Suliin

I’m afraid that link is highly speculative. It makes a number of unsubstantiated claims, and jumbles terminology together more or less randomly.

For example it claims that pretty much anything that protects you against disease in any way at all is “part of your immune system.” Apparently then your house is part of your immune system, since it protects you from weather and so helps keep you from getting sick. But talking about a 3BR/2Bath immune system with central heat is fairly silly.

The linked article also claims that anything that alters or goes around the body’s natural systems in any way thereby “damages” those systems. Vaccines are “bad” in part because they bypass the skin and stimulate the immune system artificially. I can’t help noticing that, for example, marijuana also stimulates the body’s systems artificially, and so should be bad for you as well, according to that way of thinking.Read more

By the way, my graduate degree is in medicinal chemistry, so I know a bit about how the body works and about how vaccines and drugs affect it.

Yesterday at 01:18
Keirie Christensen

Keirie Christensen

I think if people base their health beliefs off the internet and (for example) chose not to vaccinate their children could be guilty of some degree of child neglect/abuse….
Yesterday at 06:12
Stephen Saunders

Stephen Saunders

Keirie, what an ignorant statement.
I think if people DO NOT step up and educate themselves with the internet and books (remember those?) and EVERYTHING they can find for information in order to EMPOWER THEMSELVES AND THEIR CHILDREN WITH KNOWLEDGE AND THEN TAKE ACTION TO PROTECT THEIR OWN HEALTH, stupid people would cease to exist, and then the Read moregovernment would not keep creating POPULATION CONTROL PROGRAMS, Like this vaccination and a whole legion other vaccination programs, that have been foistered upon a mass of people who are stupid enough to think a SHOT IN THE ARM will relieve them of the responsibility of looking after their own CONSTITUTION, while they continue selfishly and shortsightedly abuse their bodies by sticking trash (100% cornsyrup added for your distraction) in their face and calling it food, abusing neglecting AND THEN EATING animals, on and on.
If you are so ignorant that you think the government knows what is best for your children better than you, then please run off and get those shots. Do us all a favor….
Yesterday at 10:51 · Delete
Paul Suliin

Paul Suliin

Unfortunately, Stephen, relatively few people have the training to properly evaluate medical advice gained from the Internet. So they believe a whole lot of poorly-supported scare stories, or they misinterpret what they find.

What it really comes down to is believing that a whole lot of doctors might know what’s best for your kids – medically Read morespeaking – better than you do. And that’s not such a stretch of the imagination: it’s the sort of thing you pick up here and there in medical school.

If you don’t believe that, then by all means don’t take them to a doctor when they get sick, and don’t get them vaccinated. But in that case you should expect reasonable questions about your judgment.

Yesterday at 11:06
Holy Hemptress

Holy Hemptress

Gosh– all I brought to light was the fact that this shot might not be a good idea–I would NEVER say do not go to the doctor when you are sick–in fact– I say the complete opposite.

Thanks Paul for your two cents–I value you my friend and brother–93!

Yesterday at 11:33
Stephen Saunders

Stephen Saunders

I think I believe in Humanity alot more than that, and have alot more information about what is culturally playing out in this country.
ALL OR NOTHING IS NOT THE BEST YOU CAN DO PEOPLE.
Yesterday at 11:39 · Delete
Stephen Saunders

Stephen Saunders

DON’T GET THE VACCINE!!! SEE YOUR DOCTOR BUT GET MORE INFORMATIONONGOINGLY ALWAYS AND TAKE MORE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR PREVENTATIVE HEALTH CARE LIKE DIET AND EXERCISE.
‘You ain’t gonna learn what you don’t wanna know.’
Yesterday at 11:42 · Delete
Holy Hemptress

Holy Hemptress

‘You ain’t gonna learn what you don’t wanna know.’

Now that’s telling it like it is!

Yesterday at 12:18
Paul Suliin

Paul Suliin

Yes it is. And if it means “You aren’t going to learn that vaccines are basically safe if you don’t wish to believe that,” then it even applies here.
Yesterday at 12:23
Holy Hemptress

Holy Hemptress

Yep it sure does!
Yesterday at 12:38
Holy Hemptress

Holy Hemptress

I however will learn more before I do anything–
Yesterday at 12:39
Holy Hemptress

Holy Hemptress

But if it is true about how bad this is suppose to be? I will not be doing it!
Yesterday at 12:40
Holy Hemptress

Holy Hemptress

Vaccines–I did vaccinate both of my children–but I have heard of parents being afraid to do so–my what a tangled weave is webbed! Staying clear–from here on out!
Yesterday at 13:22
Stephen Saunders

Stephen Saunders

Paul-
You are under the hypnosis of the media.
You will go in life whichever direction the crowd goes.
Always, even if it is required that you close your eyes to empirical data…. Do your homework, but prepared to have to own up the fact that ‘the Flock’ is not going to take care of you, that in fact the opposite is true. You are the shepard dude, and wolves are in your sheep.
Quit acting like a sheep, it isn’t fooling anyone, nor is it a ‘safe strategy for survival…Read more
Its costing you sheep(le).
Yesterday at 13:37 · Delete
Paul Suliin

Paul Suliin

No, Stephen. I have a Master’s Degree in Medicinal Chemistry. I’ve worked for Genentech, Roche, and the Department of Pharmacology at UCLA, among others. I “did my homework” for 4 years at the College of Pharmacy at the University of Illinois Health Sciences Center in Chicago.

I am not “under the hypnosis of the media.” I am not “acting like aRead more sheep.” I am saying what I’m saying here because I actually know what the hell I’m talking about, and because I’ve been trained to tell the difference between “empirical evidence” and urban legend.

If you could say the same, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

Yesterday at 13:55
Stephen Saunders

Stephen Saunders

Easy there Mr. Defensive……NOW I believe you are under the hypnosis of your own ego and the entrenched Academia that ‘lives’ in the educational system. You are starting to realize that you were duped by the very system you dumped the responsibility for spiritual awareness and discernment upon, and it is ontologically scary for you. Don’t worry Read moreyou don’t have to shoulder the burden on your own. There are many of us who went beyond the ‘accepted bounds’ of Information and have brought to light alot of truth. As for my education, and the notion of how to solve the challenge of building and keeping a strong constitution (good health and no need for vaccinations) start with the paper that I wrote:
http://www.majik.org/cruxenrose/?p=21
Don’t see it as an Academic pissing contest, believe me, that holds zero interest for me, I don’t give a fuck how smart or educated ANY OF YOU think I am. I am a champion of the Empirical and correspondingly Quantum truth, it is not about me and how educated i am or am not. That’s EGO BULLSHIT.
Use this information to further the enlightenment and education of all, and Don’t let population control get you.
Yesterday at 23:16 · Delete
Paul Suliin

Paul Suliin

Riiiiight. I won’t even go into my “spiritual awareness” cred with you. Ask our hostess. Meanwhile, if you want to talk about “empirical evidence” come up with some peer-reviewed papers. That’s the sort of empirical evidence that those of us who know what the term actually means respect.

I suspect that we mean very different things by “Academia.” However if your meaning is anything close to “Those who study this stuff for a living” then yeah, that’d be me all right.

Stephen, you’ve demonstrated repeatedly in this discussion that you don’t know what you’re talking about. You don’t understand immunology. You let your preconceived notions about my own qualifications lead you off into harebrained nonsense about being “hypnotized by the media” when in fact I’ve been studying things like this professionally (as in, people actually pay me for my knowledge) for over 25 years now. Read more

It’s good that you don’t care about how educated you appear. That undoubtedly saves you a lot of personal grief, and certainly makes it easier to believe that education and hands-on experience in the field don’t actually matter. For now, though, if your best “empirical evidence” is simply your own uninformed speculation, then I think we’ve taken this about as far as we usefully can. When you have real, verifiable, reproducible and statistically valid information, we’ll talk.

18 hours ago
Stephen Saunders

Stephen Saunders

DUDE.
You don’t even see how you have spun this conversation around to toot your own horn, and can’t get off of it.
An institution pays you to enrich your own ego dude.
So last Century……
You are posturing for the Facebook Crew.Read more
If you really cared about debating the subject here, you’ll take this to email. majik@majik.org.
Let’s go private and talk about how much more smart and educated you are than I, shall we?
8 hours ago · Delete
Stephen Saunders

Stephen Saunders

“Meddle Ye Not in the Afffairs of Wizards for thou art CRUNCHY, and good with Ketchup…..”
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Paul Suliin

Paul Suliin

You think that companies pay consultants out of an altruistic desire to stroke the consultants’ egos? Where do you come up with this stuff?

No, Stephen. Institutions pay me to enrich themselves. My clients pay me because I know enough to help them improve what they do, and that makes them money, so they give me some of it in exchange.

I’m “tooting my own horn” simply because you started brandishing your ignorance about my motivations and knowledge – you’re still doing it, still just as ignorantly. The subject hasn’t changed because you’ve had nothing to contribute since I pointed out that everything you’ve offered so far is unsubstantiated nonsense.Read more

I’ve no interest in discussing anything privately with you, Stephen. If you had anything worthwhile in this area you’d have brought it forth publicly by now. And I can’t imagine establishing your educational credentials any more firmly than you already have. As I said, if you come up with real evidence – peer-reviewed research – let me know. Otherwise you’re just repeating yourself.

2 hours ago
Stephen Saunders

Stephen Saunders

Yep that’s what I thought, Paul, for all of your education and investment in such, you are IGNORANT.

You IGNORE and you RANT.

Just because you won’t look at information, just because you AVOID THE TRUTH, does not make it unsubstantiated.Read more

You are attempting to protect your (tenuous) position with insults and attacks against me personally in order to avoid the debate, and then take your ego and run and hide.

You can’t help it, you are afraid.
Take a number and get in line behind all of the other fearlings, but rest assured there are plenty of us out here tackling reality while you hide under skirt of your self-inflated puffery and selective perception and retention.

Of all the running on you have done attacking me in this thread instead of debating the sanity of accepting an untested vaccine that is KILLING PEOPLE
(you’ll justify THAT grim fact with some statistic designed to justify the cost of human lives) You have not offered one shred of your research up for us, nor one example of where you have clearly used your god given gift of intellect to improve the quality of human life or relieve any suffering whatsoever.

Best of success on your path Paul, I am certain you are on the way to your wake up call just like all of the rest of us.

I am little disappointed that you didn’t have more balls than this… I might have learned something, as I know that the more I know the less I know! I don’t think you hold the same view, you are only interested in polluting your friends FB threads with ego-posturing but when the gloves come off, you jam your fingers in your ears and close your eyes and start yammering insults…. just like a good little robot.

YOU ALREADY “KNOW IT ALL”….

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MESSAGE TO THE PUBLIC!!!!!

DON’T ACCEPT THE N1N9 OR ANY OTHER UNTESTED VACCINATION!!!!!!!

THIS GUY IS THE KIND OF GUY THAT WORKS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THESE “VACCINATIONS AND ‘IMMUNE SYSTEM TWEAKING’ TECHNOLOGIES!!
TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO CARRY OUT A EUGENICS -BASED AGENDA OF POPULATION CONTROL!!!!!

POP-CON ALERT!!!!!

POP-CON POPCON POPCON

POPULATION CONTROL= POPCON

ARE YOU A PART OF THE POP-CON INDUSTRY?